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	<title>Comments on: February’s K Country Trail Users Group Meeting</title>
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		<title>By: Gillean Daffern</title>
		<link>http://kananaskisblog.com/feb-2010-ktug/2010/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillean Daffern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new terms of reference for TUG will be out in early fall, so  will let you know then what transpires.</description>
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		<title>By: Gillean Daffern</title>
		<link>http://kananaskisblog.com/feb-2010-ktug/2010/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillean Daffern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone, 
Just a few bare facts: The KCTUAG started when representatives of ski clubs were invited to partake in discussions re paying or not  to ski on trails such as those in Peter Lougheed PP.  The group has expanded a little since then to include  representatives from other outdoor clubs and associations and to discuss issues relating to summer use. What is the criteria nowadays?  I believe you still  have to represent  a club or association of some kind. I have put a query out to K Country management on this issue, but have not yet heard back from them.  

The TUAG is an advisory group only — a sort of go-between between the public and K Country.
We have little victories, such as putting more coat hangers up in Pocaterra Hut, and major failures, such as not being able to keep the trailhead at Volcano Ridge open during the closure of the Gorge Creek Road. It  is in no way a secret society as Derek suggested; on the contrary,  we try to disseminate information to the hiking and skiing public through the clubs, associations and through this blog site. So if you have suggestions, grievances or kudos  you can either  contact me  or a club representative and we will raise the issue at the next meeting.  Or you can also contact K Country itself: Steve.Donelon@gov.ab.ca  

Re trail maintenance: The Friends of Kananaskis organizes volunteer trail crews. Contact them at trails@kananaskis.org. Usually, they work on interpretive trails and new trails. K Country allows people to go in and prune  branches and shrubs. No problem there. But it the work involves using a chainsaw, then you have to email Bill at Bill.Johnston@gov.ab.ca who will put  the trail on his  to-do list. It’s a liability issue. Of course, this is for designated trails only. On undesignated trails, be they hiking, biking or equestrian, the clearing often gets done anonymously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,<br />
Just a few bare facts: The KCTUAG started when representatives of ski clubs were invited to partake in discussions re paying or not  to ski on trails such as those in Peter Lougheed PP.  The group has expanded a little since then to include  representatives from other outdoor clubs and associations and to discuss issues relating to summer use. What is the criteria nowadays?  I believe you still  have to represent  a club or association of some kind. I have put a query out to K Country management on this issue, but have not yet heard back from them.  </p>
<p>The TUAG is an advisory group only — a sort of go-between between the public and K Country.<br />
We have little victories, such as putting more coat hangers up in Pocaterra Hut, and major failures, such as not being able to keep the trailhead at Volcano Ridge open during the closure of the Gorge Creek Road. It  is in no way a secret society as Derek suggested; on the contrary,  we try to disseminate information to the hiking and skiing public through the clubs, associations and through this blog site. So if you have suggestions, grievances or kudos  you can either  contact me  or a club representative and we will raise the issue at the next meeting.  Or you can also contact K Country itself: <a href="mailto:Steve.Donelon@gov.ab.ca">Steve.Donelon@gov.ab.ca</a>  </p>
<p>Re trail maintenance: The Friends of Kananaskis organizes volunteer trail crews. Contact them at <a href="mailto:trails@kananaskis.org">trails@kananaskis.org</a>. Usually, they work on interpretive trails and new trails. K Country allows people to go in and prune  branches and shrubs. No problem there. But it the work involves using a chainsaw, then you have to email Bill at <a href="mailto:Bill.Johnston@gov.ab.ca">Bill.Johnston@gov.ab.ca</a> who will put  the trail on his  to-do list. It’s a liability issue. Of course, this is for designated trails only. On undesignated trails, be they hiking, biking or equestrian, the clearing often gets done anonymously.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://kananaskisblog.com/feb-2010-ktug/2010/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also love to see meetings times and locations posted in advance on this website, or a link to the user group&#039;s website. This web site has been a hugely valuable source of information, and the more I read, the more I want to get involved!

As for Chester Lake, I actually prefer the snowshoe trail (despite that mammoth uphill trek!). Others have told me they&#039;ve been unable to find the turnoff in years past, but I have found the snowshoeing signage throughout PLPP to be much improved this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also love to see meetings times and locations posted in advance on this website, or a link to the user group&#8217;s website. This web site has been a hugely valuable source of information, and the more I read, the more I want to get involved!</p>
<p>As for Chester Lake, I actually prefer the snowshoe trail (despite that mammoth uphill trek!). Others have told me they&#8217;ve been unable to find the turnoff in years past, but I have found the snowshoeing signage throughout PLPP to be much improved this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Riggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Riggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the previous comment by Derek-
&quot;I’m curious: the same way there’s an “Adopt a Highway” program, is there an “Adopt a Trail” program? I would happily participate some manual labour a copule of times a year to help clear a trail or two, but don’t know who does this. In the last 2 years I have been up to my neck in grass on the overgrown Eagle Hill trail, clambered over huge amounts of deadfall on the Tent Ridge access, and arrived at numerous “vistas” that have been so overgrown as to be “not vistas”. This strikes me as an ideal project for KTUG to coordinate.&quot;

I would say- just do it.
Myself, and others I know, usually carry a small folding saw, and often  hand pruners, when hiking. These are enough to quickly remove smaller blowdowns and keep encroaching shrubbery at bay.
As my fellow mountain bikers have learned, the quickest and often best solution to trail maintenance is &quot;DIY&quot;.
I have personally adopted Moosepackers trail and have cleared the trail of winter blowdowns for the last several years, simply by using a good sharp bowsaw.  It, and Tent Ridge as well, are not official trails anyway and would not likely ever see parks trail crews anyway . Tent Ridge trail would really need some &quot;two stroke smoke&quot;, due to the size and extent of the fallen timber.
As for the official trails, be sure to let the appropriate parks personnel know of trail issues as sometimes they may not even be aware of current conditions.  It does work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the previous comment by Derek-<br />
&#8220;I’m curious: the same way there’s an “Adopt a Highway” program, is there an “Adopt a Trail” program? I would happily participate some manual labour a copule of times a year to help clear a trail or two, but don’t know who does this. In the last 2 years I have been up to my neck in grass on the overgrown Eagle Hill trail, clambered over huge amounts of deadfall on the Tent Ridge access, and arrived at numerous “vistas” that have been so overgrown as to be “not vistas”. This strikes me as an ideal project for KTUG to coordinate.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would say- just do it.<br />
Myself, and others I know, usually carry a small folding saw, and often  hand pruners, when hiking. These are enough to quickly remove smaller blowdowns and keep encroaching shrubbery at bay.<br />
As my fellow mountain bikers have learned, the quickest and often best solution to trail maintenance is &#8220;DIY&#8221;.<br />
I have personally adopted Moosepackers trail and have cleared the trail of winter blowdowns for the last several years, simply by using a good sharp bowsaw.  It, and Tent Ridge as well, are not official trails anyway and would not likely ever see parks trail crews anyway . Tent Ridge trail would really need some &#8220;two stroke smoke&#8221;, due to the size and extent of the fallen timber.<br />
As for the official trails, be sure to let the appropriate parks personnel know of trail issues as sometimes they may not even be aware of current conditions.  It does work.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Ryder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Ryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried for some time to attend the KTUG meetings, but so far have been unable to find out when or where they are being held, nor what has been discussed. They feel like a &quot;secret society&quot; to me and I don&#039;t know the handshake. So I very much appreciate your reporting, and would also appreciate the following:
1) Since you obviously know about these meetings, could you post about their location and time in advance so others could attend?
2) Is there any chance you could pass on how to stay on top of this group&#039;s activities? I have as yet been unable to locate a website, find a contact or get on a mailing list.

I am not surprised that trail maintenance will be reduced once again. I would love to &quot;make my feelings known to K Country and Alberta Transportation on this issue,&quot; but a contact who can do something about it would be good. &quot;Writing my MLA&quot; (David Swann) has proved pointless in the past.

I&#039;m curious: the same way there&#039;s an &quot;Adopt a Highway&quot; program, is there an &quot;Adopt a Trail&quot; program? I would happily participate some manual labour a copule of times a year to help clear a trail or two, but don&#039;t know who does this. In the last 2 years I have been up to my neck in grass on the overgrown Eagle Hill trail, clambered over huge amounts of deadfall on the Tent Ridge access, and arrived at numerous &quot;vistas&quot; that have been so overgrown as to be &quot;not vistas&quot;. This strikes me as an ideal project for KTUG to coordinate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried for some time to attend the KTUG meetings, but so far have been unable to find out when or where they are being held, nor what has been discussed. They feel like a &#8220;secret society&#8221; to me and I don&#8217;t know the handshake. So I very much appreciate your reporting, and would also appreciate the following:<br />
1) Since you obviously know about these meetings, could you post about their location and time in advance so others could attend?<br />
2) Is there any chance you could pass on how to stay on top of this group&#8217;s activities? I have as yet been unable to locate a website, find a contact or get on a mailing list.</p>
<p>I am not surprised that trail maintenance will be reduced once again. I would love to &#8220;make my feelings known to K Country and Alberta Transportation on this issue,&#8221; but a contact who can do something about it would be good. &#8220;Writing my MLA&#8221; (David Swann) has proved pointless in the past.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious: the same way there&#8217;s an &#8220;Adopt a Highway&#8221; program, is there an &#8220;Adopt a Trail&#8221; program? I would happily participate some manual labour a copule of times a year to help clear a trail or two, but don&#8217;t know who does this. In the last 2 years I have been up to my neck in grass on the overgrown Eagle Hill trail, clambered over huge amounts of deadfall on the Tent Ridge access, and arrived at numerous &#8220;vistas&#8221; that have been so overgrown as to be &#8220;not vistas&#8221;. This strikes me as an ideal project for KTUG to coordinate.</p>
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