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	<title>Comments on: New Bike Trails in the Elbow</title>
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		<title>By: Becky Rogala</title>
		<link>http://kananaskisblog.com/bike-trails-elbow/2009/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky Rogala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gillean,

I know all of the guys who built the trail and know they&#039;re working with the Greater Bragg Creek Trail Assn (CMBA has been involved with consulting on the trail design).  I think it&#039;s fantastic and am really looking forward to getting everything connected up.  My concern is that the current trails as they are are not sustainable and by sending people/riders down them you are causing unnecessary damage and potentially bad rider/hiker interactions since the trails are designed for bikes to carry quite a bit of speed and many of the turns are blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gillean,</p>
<p>I know all of the guys who built the trail and know they&#8217;re working with the Greater Bragg Creek Trail Assn (CMBA has been involved with consulting on the trail design).  I think it&#8217;s fantastic and am really looking forward to getting everything connected up.  My concern is that the current trails as they are are not sustainable and by sending people/riders down them you are causing unnecessary damage and potentially bad rider/hiker interactions since the trails are designed for bikes to carry quite a bit of speed and many of the turns are blind.</p>
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		<title>By: Gillean Daffern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gillean Daffern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Becky,
thanks for giving the reason behind the name–who would have guessed?  and the update on work still needing to be done. 
All the trails you mention except for Sugar Momma have been incorporated into the Greater Bragg Creek Trails Assn. trail plan with some adjustments to be made.  This doesn’t mean hikers can’t walk the unofficial, so-called “illegal” “rogue” trail.  And as far as I know it is still being ridden. It makes sense to me to have a bike trail connecting the south end of Elbow trail to the Ranger Hill hub of trails. See volume 2 of the KC Trail Guide.  Interestingly, the guys that built these “illegal” trails are now working for the Great West Bragg Trails Assn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Becky,<br />
thanks for giving the reason behind the name–who would have guessed?  and the update on work still needing to be done.<br />
All the trails you mention except for Sugar Momma have been incorporated into the Greater Bragg Creek Trails Assn. trail plan with some adjustments to be made.  This doesn’t mean hikers can’t walk the unofficial, so-called “illegal” “rogue” trail.  And as far as I know it is still being ridden. It makes sense to me to have a bike trail connecting the south end of Elbow trail to the Ranger Hill hub of trails. See volume 2 of the KC Trail Guide.  Interestingly, the guys that built these “illegal” trails are now working for the Great West Bragg Trails Assn.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Rogala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky Rogala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a comment on those trails that come off Ridgeback and connect to Ranger Ridge/Fullerton Loop.  They do already have names (House of Pain, Sugar Momma, Strange Brew), but I should point out that they are illegal trails, not permitted, not built to sustainable specifications - actually only a system of raked &quot;trails&quot; defined mostly be downed trees.  Use of those trails should be discouraged.

However, that being said, some aspects of these trails have been built into the Greater Bragg Creek trail plan and a similar route WILL be built that is LEGAL and SUSTAINABLE.

Thanks for the kind comments on Ridgeback (I&#039;ve been heavily involved myself, my husband led the machine-crew, and it&#039;s named after my Rhodesian Ridgebacks who played along the ridge-top during the building process).

We realize there are some wet spots on the trail and are still working on tweaking some areas of poor drainage so please be patient.  Watch for a reroute on the second section to lift the trail to a better drainage point and armouring of small sections further up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a comment on those trails that come off Ridgeback and connect to Ranger Ridge/Fullerton Loop.  They do already have names (House of Pain, Sugar Momma, Strange Brew), but I should point out that they are illegal trails, not permitted, not built to sustainable specifications &#8211; actually only a system of raked &#8220;trails&#8221; defined mostly be downed trees.  Use of those trails should be discouraged.</p>
<p>However, that being said, some aspects of these trails have been built into the Greater Bragg Creek trail plan and a similar route WILL be built that is LEGAL and SUSTAINABLE.</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind comments on Ridgeback (I&#8217;ve been heavily involved myself, my husband led the machine-crew, and it&#8217;s named after my Rhodesian Ridgebacks who played along the ridge-top during the building process).</p>
<p>We realize there are some wet spots on the trail and are still working on tweaking some areas of poor drainage so please be patient.  Watch for a reroute on the second section to lift the trail to a better drainage point and armouring of small sections further up.</p>
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		<title>By: Moose Mountain Trails &#124; Kananaskis Country</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moose Mountain Trails &#124; Kananaskis Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] map in a previous post, New Bike Trails in the Elbow, shows trails to the east between Tom Snow to Elbow [...]</description>
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